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According to Coronavirus antibodies may not make you immune, WHO warns

There is no evidence to suggest that recovered coronavirus patients and former asymptomatic carriers who have coronavirus antibodies in their blood will have long-term COVID-19 immunity, the World Health Organization said in a press conference on Friday.

In one hand, they are not sure, and they've been wrong in the last months about COVID-19. And in the other hand,

Why we're relying on blood infusions

COVID-19 research is advancing at an unprecedented speed, but one strategy doctors are leaning on to treat COVID-19 patients looks more antiquated than innovative. In hospitals around the United States, caregivers are resorting to using century-old convalescent plasma therapy — siphoning blood from survivors and reinfusing it into the sick.

So people using this technique believes some sort of immunity from antibodies might be possible. My question is, is there any evidence of any immunity given by antibodies, even if it's short or middle term immunity? (WHO says there is no evidence and antibodies might not be make you immune in the long term, but said nothing about middle or short term)

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You're asking some completely different questions here from sources talking about completely different aspects of antibody-mediated immunity.

The first statement, from WHO, is talking about people who have antibodies now and whether they will have immunity in the future.

Antibodies are produced by particular immune system cells. Someone can recover from the virus today but if those immune cells that produce the specific antibodies against the virus aren't present in 1 year, then that person may have no protection.

WE CANNOT KNOW YET about this. This is a brand new virus, it's only been around for maybe 6 months. There is absolutely no way science can know what level of immunity people will have in 12 months from a virus that has only been around for 6, no matter how hard you ask the question. All we can do is speculate based on what is known about other coronaviruses.


The second point is completely separate: this is about convalescent plasma, taking plasma from people recently recovered and giving it to people currently sick. This isn't intended to "make them immune", it's to give a boost of antibodies to temporarily do the job of combating the virus by binding active virus and making it inactive, buying time to mount an immune response in the infected patient.

For this to work, you need to be able to collect and administer enough antibody-rich plasma and then the antibodies need to get to where the virus is causing infection. If there aren't enough antibodies in the plasma, it won't work. If the antibodies don't get to where the virus is (e.g., the lungs rather than the blood), it won't work (except perhaps in patients with viremia). If the antibodies get there but there aren't enough relative to the concentration of virus, it won't work.

We won't know whether it works until we try it in a lot of patients. Unlike drug therapies which can be fairly standardized, convalescent plasma is really complicated: it depends not just on the principle of the therapy but also on the specific patients the plasma comes from and the specific patients the plasma goes to. There are some promising initial studies (both with the new virus and in the past) that encourage people to keep trying, but so far that's all we have:

Shen, C., Wang, Z., Zhao, F., Yang, Y., Li, J., Yuan, J., ... & Wei, J. (2020). Treatment of 5 critically ill patients with COVID-19 with convalescent plasma. Jama.

Chen, L., Xiong, J., Bao, L., & Shi, Y. (2020). Convalescent plasma as a potential therapy for COVID-19. The Lancet Infectious Diseases, 20(4), 398-400.

Casadevall, A., & Pirofski, L. A. (2020). The convalescent sera option for containing COVID-19. The Journal of clinical investigation, 130(4), 1545-1548.

See also

https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/04/08/arturo-casadevall-blood-sera-profile/

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    But I dont want to know if a person will have inmunity in 12 months, I want to know if a person who just recovered has some inmunity for it right away, which it would be some deceleration for the virus to spread. Is that still impossible to be known?. Some people claims there isnt because some people got re-infected. – Pablo Apr 19 at 22:59
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    @Pablo No one knows for sure. The news articles you are reading and statements by public health officials aren't hiding something from you. There's also the issue of testing for antibodies, in that a positive test for antibodies can be a false-positive. – Bryan Krause Apr 19 at 23:00
  • "but if those immune cells that produce the specific antibodies against the virus aren't present in 1 year" what do you mean? why would not them be present in 1 year? how is that? – I likeThatMeow Apr 19 at 23:07
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    @America Cells die all the time and new ones are formed. Immunity is from having lots of cells ready to produce the specific type of antibody needed. You may be familiar with "booster" vaccine shots for things like tetanus: that's because immunity declines since the time you originally get the vaccine. Memory B-cells are the ones important for longest-lasting immunity: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_B_cell you can also mount a short-term immune response without much of a memory. – Bryan Krause Apr 19 at 23:21
  • @BryanKrause Got it. Thank you – I likeThatMeow Apr 19 at 23:40

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